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	<title>Comments on: Do we blog instead of discussing</title>
	<link>http://maadmob.net/donna/blog/2004/do-we-blog-instead-of-discussing</link>
	<description>Information architecture, interaction design and much more</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: vanderwal</title>
		<link>http://maadmob.net/donna/blog/2004/do-we-blog-instead-of-discussing#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>vanderwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna, you have hit upon part of the quiet on lists. The blog postings do give more control of the content, but it greatly decreases the discussion, even if sites have comment boards.  The blog is much more asynchronous, where as the listserv is more synchronous. The quickest communication environment is face-to-face as one not only has the direct channels, but the side channels of communication (side discussions, non-verbal, etc.).

This came up at the Design Engaged conference, which found many of us read each others' blogs, but the quick exchanges of ideas was far more productive than a week or month of blog posts or even a week of really active listserv.

The syndication of sites allows for pulling many conversations into one place, but rate of communication slows down.  This seems to slowdown the honing and improving of ideas also.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna, you have hit upon part of the quiet on lists. The blog postings do give more control of the content, but it greatly decreases the discussion, even if sites have comment boards.  The blog is much more asynchronous, where as the listserv is more synchronous. The quickest communication environment is face-to-face as one not only has the direct channels, but the side channels of communication (side discussions, non-verbal, etc.).</p>
<p>This came up at the Design Engaged conference, which found many of us read each others&#8217; blogs, but the quick exchanges of ideas was far more productive than a week or month of blog posts or even a week of really active listserv.</p>
<p>The syndication of sites allows for pulling many conversations into one place, but rate of communication slows down.  This seems to slowdown the honing and improving of ideas also.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://maadmob.net/donna/blog/2004/do-we-blog-instead-of-discussing#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're referring to the "newbie" factor and the "freshmeat" factor;

The "newbie" factor is when a mailing-list has reached a point where the chasm between newbie and old-timer is greater than the number of lines it takes to explain the newbie what it is all about, which is of cumulative growth as the context of the problem grows with our understanding of it.

The "freshmeat" factor is when topics go from hot to cold. When most kinks have been sorted out, "go read the friggin' archives." Human nature. It is easier to say something to everybody than to someone specific. Always. Any taxonomy goes from general to specific, even the taxonomy of communication.

Ok, so I'm postulating here. Maybe nobody really want to discuss anymore. Internet isn't that hot anymore. Maybe people are happy with the one-sided authoritarian fascist way, talking out of their own ... uh, blogs. But then, what do I know; Just read my friggin' blog and give me Google juice. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re referring to the &#8220;newbie&#8221; factor and the &#8220;freshmeat&#8221; factor;</p>
<p>The &#8220;newbie&#8221; factor is when a mailing-list has reached a point where the chasm between newbie and old-timer is greater than the number of lines it takes to explain the newbie what it is all about, which is of cumulative growth as the context of the problem grows with our understanding of it.</p>
<p>The &#8220;freshmeat&#8221; factor is when topics go from hot to cold. When most kinks have been sorted out, &#8220;go read the friggin&#8217; archives.&#8221; Human nature. It is easier to say something to everybody than to someone specific. Always. Any taxonomy goes from general to specific, even the taxonomy of communication.</p>
<p>Ok, so I&#8217;m postulating here. Maybe nobody really want to discuss anymore. Internet isn&#8217;t that hot anymore. Maybe people are happy with the one-sided authoritarian fascist way, talking out of their own &#8230; uh, blogs. But then, what do I know; Just read my friggin&#8217; blog and give me Google juice. <img src='http://maadmob.net/donna/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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